INTERVIEW WITH MR. REGGIE MICHAEL EDITOR, TIMES OF CEYLON February 8, 1973

President Zulfikar Ali Bhutto said that Pakistan would welcome any initiative that Ceylon may take for the repatriation of Pakistani prisoners of war and resolution of other problems between Pakistan and India.

He was giving an interview to Mr. Reggie Michael, Editor Times of Ceylon, in Karachi.

The President said that an initiative coming from the Prime Minister of Ceylon, whom we have known for a long time, would be particularly welcome because she is a friend of both Pakistan and India. The people of Pakistan, moreover, had high regard for the people of Ceylon, and they would be only too happy if the people of Ceylon lend a hand in the resolution of their problems with India. But he was rather skeptical about the outcome of these initiatives not only from Ceylon but also from other quarters in view of the stand taken by India; that she would consider repatriating Pakistani POWs provided Bangladesh agreed to it.

He said, essentially speaking, the return of POWs is not connected with any Pakistani decision of the recognition of Bangladesh. If the Geneva Conventions were to be complied with, there is no justification for keeping over 90,000 prisoners of war, of which 20,000 were civilians including women and children, after a cease-fire had taken place and after the territories occupied during the war had been vacated by the troops of the two countries.

The President referred to the cease-fire in Vietnam and said the first thing they saw to after the cease-fire was that the American POWs were to be returned. This is as it should be. We were happy that the American POWs were returning to their country. Similarly, we would like to see our prisoners of war coming back to Pakistan. But India had without justification linked up their return with the recognition of Bangladesh. Today, he said India had linked it up with Bangladesh; tomorrow she might link it up with something else.

The president said that continued detention of Pakistani Prisoners of War is not going to contribute to the resolution of problems between the two countries. If they look at the future, and Pakistan looks at it hopefully, it would be better if the POWs were now returned. Replying to a question the President said the POWs issue was the main issue in terms of the aftermath of the last war, but the hurdle of hurdles is the Kashmir dispute. It has to be resolved before India and Pakistan could hope for a lasting peace and live together in mutual trust in the same subcontinent and co-operate with one another in as many fields as possible.

The President pointed out that continued tension between Pakistan and India was not at all conducive to their progress. He regretted that whereas in other countries people were moving forward in improving their conditions, they, in this sub-continent, both India and Pakistan had reached alarming proportions. There is more poverty now than it was a decade ago.

The President said that it was no use saying there were Great Powers, who would like to see things boil in this area because it suited them to keep the two countries apart. Why should they play in the hands of others? If they knew these things were happening and if they realized the damage they would do to their national interests and to the interest of peace in the whole region, they should fall back on their own commonsense and intelligence and have frequent bilateral discussions, more contacts between themselves, more dialogues in depth and dimension.

Replying to a question the President said Pakistan would support the Ceylonese resolution at the United Nations that the Indian Ocean should be made a peace zone. He said not only there should be peace in the territorial part of the subcontinent but also the Indian Ocean because even if there was peace in the subcontinent, the Indian Ocean could become cockpit of international interests. In that event, the subcontinent itself could not escape from those activities.

Asked about his attitude towards regional co-operation on the lines of European Common Market, the President said that in principle, Pakistan would like to work for a Common Market in Asia but, in practical terms a region had to attain a certain level of technological development before its economy could become complementary. Unfortunately in Asia, they had not so far reached that level of economic development where they could pool their resources for the collective benefit of all countries. In reality, development was so uneven that pooling would not be equitably beneficial but would tend to pull in the direction of one country or the other.

He said that basically they were producers of primary commodities though some of them were getting into semi-manufacturing and manufacturing fields. Mostly their economies were parallel and, therefore, he believed they would first have to bring about a sufficient progress in their own internal economies before they could think in terms of a common market. They were also short of so many things, which had to be imported. They must, therefore, wait for some time to reach a level of economic development where they are self-sufficient at least in their basic requirements.